Grodno, Belarus

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Ginthus
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Grodno, Belarus

Post by Ginthus » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:59 am

Tomorow I'm going to Grodno, Belarus. I studied a map, and got suspicious about some features. A town looks very star'ish. This stadium shape looks odd:
https://www.google.lt/maps/dir//53.6688 ... a=!3m1!1e3
And this site in the woods says Zemlyanoy Fort:
https://www.google.lt/maps/place/Zemlya ... 23.7957859
And of course it has old castle fortifications:
https://www.google.lt/maps/dir/53.68688 ... a=!3m1!1e3
I'll let you know if I notice anything new after my trip.

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Ginthus » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:06 am

The trip was very educative. Not even the locals are aware of the outer fort ring.
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Here's No2. said to be from WW1.
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I am possitive, that there might have been 2 or 3 rings. Sadly no info found.

The town itself. Can you see the hedgehog?
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No? How about now?
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Well, what do you say?

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Ginthus » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:02 am

Found the inner ring:
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one fort is exactly on the stadium I mentioned earlier https://www.google.lt/maps/dir//53.6688 ... a=!3m1!1e3

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Ginthus » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:32 am

The trip was very educative. Not even the locals are aware of the outer fort ring.
Image
Here's No2. said to be from WW1.
Image
I am possitive, that there might have been 2 or 3 rings. Sadly no info found.

The town itself. Can you see the hedgehog?
Image
No? How about now?
Image
Well, what do you say?

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Fenton » Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:51 pm

Hey Ginthus - Thanks for looking into Grodno - fascinating place. And at first glance, not much there, but look a little closer...

This link - https://www.google.lt/maps/dir//53.6688 ... a=!3m1!1e3 - the stadium has even retained the shape of the satellite!

The hedgehog looks clear to me, now that you've pointed it out. Colm told me a couple of weeks ago that he thinks most major star cities were hedgehogs, of one form or another. It's looking like he might be right.

Is this where you see the hedgehog (below pic), or do you see it laid out differently?

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There was possibly a crown structure - or a continuation of the hedgehog, on the other side of the canal (which is now a railway, I see).

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Or maybe it was double-sided?

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I'll add some more to this later today.

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Ginthus » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:49 pm

The last one and even more to the east. I tried to upload an old map, but dont know if you can open the link https://ibb.co/RYQvFzb

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Re: Grodno, Belarus

Post by Fenton » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:03 pm

That old map helps a lot - nice!

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