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The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:34 am
by Fenton
The Netherlands - ah, what a great place to start for starfort enthusiasts!

Why? Because so much of the StarCiv has been retained. It looks like the lowland region of The Netherlands was flooded, intensely but briefly, but then, when the waters receded, there were lots of StarCiv structures and perfectly preserved canal and field systems left as evidence. No doubt covered in silt or mud!

Check out Colm's KMZ file, in and around The Netherlands area. So much going on!

Antwerp is packed with StarCiv evidence:
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There's a Starhub (red outline), satellites and auxilliaries, an inland port system, regular canal system, field systems, forested areas and boundary markers. Much of it well preserved.

Aerial photographs (taken during WW2) of much of Holland are available at this site - www.ncap.org.uk (It's about £50 per year to have access to all areas). This is an excellent resource to be able to see how much has been changed (and possibly scrubbed from existence) in just the last 80 years.

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The above pic of Brielle, Holland was taken in 1943. Notice how pristine it all looks? There is a crisp series of fields with perfect irrigation channels cut into them, all of which integrate into the area surrounding the Starhub. The Starhub has a sub-canal that forks in two, running into it from the main canal to the right. There is a small auxilliary structure at the far end of the sub-canal where it meets the main canal.

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The StarCiv field system in the Netherlands is more functional than artistically designed. The series of pics taken in 1943 shown below - stitched together - is an area between Zevender and Utretch in The Netherlands which stretches for approximately 15km. The fields are neatly cut and spaced (of course, the StarCiv was very particular about it's field system) and run down to what would have been a major canal which is now called a 'river'. The size and scale of the fields are, in some cases, staggering. Their sheer number can be mind-numbing. You can see our where our civilisation has most probably come along, filled in an irrigation canal to be used as a road - and built houses along it!

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and here is a pic taken in 1943 of some of their fields that are all irrigated beautifully and waiting to be planted:

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The picture below of Gemeente Willemstad was one of the first I found on the NCAP site. It really blew my mind, because it showed how it would have looked in an almost original state. It has a boundary marker canal surrounding it, a small auxilliary at the bottom, plus fields that have been angled to make it look as though it is a folded book. It was at this moment that I realised the StarCiv took pride in the presentation of their field system. It would lead me on a path of discovery that blew my mind again! Magnificent!

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The variations in design of StarCiv hubs, satellites and auxilliaries is almost endless, yet they all retain a certain aesthetic feel to them. It seems that diversity was important to the StarCiv, certainly when it came to their structures.

More on Holland soon.

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:37 pm
by 13thMonkey (Mike)
You showed Antwerp Fenton ;)

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Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:50 pm
by 13thMonkey (Mike)
Den Helder, i very much enjoyed seeing a picture of Oostoever pre lock situation in the canal description section of the website

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Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:42 pm
by Fenton
13thMonkey (Mike) wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:37 pm
You showed Antwerp Fenton ;)
Ooops, I'm new to this :). Changed!

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:08 am
by Fenton
LOL, I only just realised that Antwerp is in Belgium. I'm embarassed, but undetered. I'll leave this as a testament to my own hubris. :)

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:06 pm
by 13thMonkey (Mike)
Back in the days of that great lost civilisation it was all one country
And that part of Belgium still speaks Dutch
You're forgiven ;)

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:36 pm
by Fenton
13thMonkey (Mike) wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:06 pm
Back in the days of that great lost civilisation it was all one country
That is so spot on, Mike. This civilisation was one.

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:17 am
by Jww427
Gotta love all that electromagnetic Earth energy for farming!

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:47 pm
by Nicomanfp
some of these look too new, after star civ. ww1? but some of these look great. So many hedgehogs!

Re: The Netherlands - A perfect place to start

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2020 6:37 pm
by Fenton
Nicomanfp said: 'some of these look too new, after star civ'

There are many maps from 1650 AD onwards that mark ALL of these stars as already there.