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Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Wed May 29, 2019 10:22 am
by Fenton
I was browsing some digitised old books held at a German university and came across a book from 1602 which has a diagram of a starfort as it's central theme. It's written in Latin by the looks of it, so I have no clue what it's talking about. Any Latin scholars here?

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here's a link to the book online - ... 001/thumbs

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:03 pm
by Mike M
:D Showing that gave me the butt kick I needed to get this posted.

From a German book my family has had since printing, believe is the attached map. I believe the book dates to the j690s. I got it restored earlier this year to share with David Wells but never did.

How many stars can you find in this early map of Jerusalem - wherever it was really located? I included a couple close ups of easier ones.

Also, a close up of the field topic that seem to fit your definition.

Towers & domes for UAP

Canals - they clearly knew how to sustain.

Raphaim for giant fans.

And more.

More comments to follow.

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:07 pm
by Mike M
Is there anyway to rotate the pics, change order and add labeling to individual pics after posting? I took down my Ft Pickens pics I put up earlier because the were out of whack sequentially and I couldnt label.


Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:39 am
by Fenton
Hi Tia - wow, thanks for that map of Jerusalem - I've been looking for months for a layout of exactly that and you've provided a superb example!

I've downloaded and tidied up the main pic you posted -

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it's nicely detailed at 100% - (remember to right click and view image, then right click that image and save as... to get it at full resolution)

I'll take a good look at it and comment in a while. Fantastic!
Is there anyway to rotate the pics, change order and add labeling to individual pics after posting
I'm sorry, but the picture editing functions of this board are non-existent.

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:39 am
by Mike M

I'm very appreciative of your work, Colms....and all others here and on YT.

Thank you for correcting that image Fenton.

As you know but others may not, my original map is of the 1st temple period of Jerusalem which ended in 586 BC, allegedly, with the Babylonians destroying them. I will be posting a 1st temple (post Jesus Christ but pre-70AD when the 2nd temple was destroyed) Jerusalem drawing that is more an illustration than a presumed "map". It is also restored. Coming shortly.

The TIA is "thanks in advance", as in, thank you for the image you corrected....I'm not TIA. Please feel free to delete the sideways drawing I originally submitted and which you corrected superbly. fyi - I'm Mike Mohrhoff or, at, Mike M.

This posting of mine is an interesting drawing in that Villalpando, the presumed creator, died in 1608 and the drawing, printed no later than 1690's from his existing work, still around, contains fascinating items....many unburied "star forts" at least as I understand their distinguishing appearance. Was Villalpando simply creative or where did his ideas of civilization (ie. architecture, city layout, advancement, etc.) in 586 BC or earlier come from? From where is the source documentation that otherwise fed his pen to recreate such an old reconstruction?

Anyway, I'm really thrilled you are benefitting from something in my inherited collection, Fenton. I will keep trying to bring forth more.

Mike M

PS. Curious if you are trying to compare to Fomenko's work. If so, please advise as I have more.

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:46 am
by Mike M
Sorry. That is to say, 1st temple period, aka, Solomon's temple period which ended~586BC. The temple may be observed in the lower right center. Many, many starfort like structures within Jerusalem that long ago.....and, they don't appear to be mudflooded.

Take pause before assuming ages of occurences.

Thanks for enduring my inefficiency in posting.


Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:43 am
by Mike M
Changing topics but related. There is a star fort shown herein.

(I promise I will present 2nd temple illustrations.)

These drawings are from the same book from which I previously published 1st period Solomon temple here, above.

These drawings now are of Fredricus and his kingdom in Saxony, Germany, in early 16th century Saxony, Germany. If you don't know about the reformation, Martin Luther protested the practices of Rome (the Catholic Church in Iyaly) by posting "95 Thesis" on the doors of the church in Wittenburg, Germany in 1517 or j517 or i517 or whatever else you choose to believe about calendar dating. His protests ignited the 1st defiance of "church" authority that was enabled by new technology, the printing press. The printing press allowed him to reach millions with his contrarian position versus what had been accepted for centuries/millennium.

Martin Luther is described as having led what became the protestant reformation. The purpose of sharing is to show that my book either celebrates 100 years of ML's influence or knocks off 100 years of our history.....because of the dates shown herein. Please see the i617 inset from my book. Either that's a celebration of the 100 year anniversary of ML understanding the Gospel or it accurately shows that he was only 400 years ago, not 500 as recently celebrated. THE CHURCH at large has, 2 years ago, celebrated 500 YEARS since ML. 500 or 400? Are you a controller/parasite?

I don't know the truth about when he lived because I wasn't there. The attached photo shows 1617. The world says 1517. (I think i/j 617) What's another 100 years amongst friends?

There is an obvious starfort in Saxony 400 or 500 years ago. If no one sees it, cut it out and delete. I've got more that are better and coming.

Thanks for considering.

Mike M

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:45 am
by Mike M

I'm sorry. I thought I'd try a small exhibition. None of the drawings went to my laptops orientation. They're all sideways. Please correct or dump it.

Thank you,


Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:11 am
by Fenton
Hey Mike - I've tidied up the images you posted

Saxony 1 Luther Sectional View.JPG
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Saxony Star 1 Description.JPG
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Saxony, Germany Star 1 Full Pic.JPG
Saxony, Germany Star 1 Full Pic.JPG (8.7 MiB) Viewed 4126 times

Yes, the history of the world, as presented to us previously, is literally falling apart.

Re: Old books mentioning starforts

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:55 pm
by Mike M
You are a gem. Perhaps an adult beverage or two made my description less than perfect. Sorry. I’m still glad you could fix the orientation. More to come. Thank you. Mike